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Now Enlisting: 1945 Campaign
Naseby
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Posted: Saturday, September 05, 2015 - 07:28 PM UTC
Hm this sounds interesting. Based on how many thins I will be having on the table in November I might join, have a few kits which would match the criteria:

Me-109K4
F4U-1D Corsair
Tupolev Tu-2
Arado Ar-234
LongKnife
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Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2015 - 11:23 AM UTC
Checked my 109 G-10 this weekend and found it to actually be a K-4. So far I've found the differences to concern the wing bulges, for which smaller ones are supplied, so that's taken care of, and the hatch for the first aid kit, which can be rescribed (a thing I've never done before) but everything else seems to be very similar. Does anybody here know of anything else on the skin to be different? I'm going for a fully enclosed plane, so engine differences will not be visible.

Lillen
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2015 - 02:55 PM UTC

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Checked my 109 G-10 this weekend and found it to actually be a K-4. So far I've found the differences to concern the wing bulges, for which smaller ones are supplied, so that's taken care of, and the hatch for the first aid kit, which can be rescribed (a thing I've never done before) but everything else seems to be very similar. Does anybody here know of anything else on the skin to be different? I'm going for a fully enclosed plane, so engine differences will not be visible.

Lillen
Hm I believe both K-4 and G-10 would qualify, whouldnt they ?

EDIT: Ahh Im stupid, I didnt notice You were going for a G-10 that was flying in Sweden. Sorry.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2015 - 06:02 PM UTC
Not sure about the tail, Tony. Maybe a 109 Expert will check in.

I'm thinking Japanese for my entry. I have the following options:

Ki-61 Tony
Ki-84 Frank
J2M3 Raiden

All Hasegawa 1/32 kits. Choices, choices!

Michael
LongKnife
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Posted: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 - 10:49 AM UTC
Hi guys.

The investigation goes on. It seems like Revell have made a booboo on their 109-K4, so the first aid hatch is placed according to a G-fuselage. Now, for the tail, I've found no visible differences on the profiles and 109-websites I've found, but if somebody has info, I'd be glad. If I'm to build a specific plane, I do't want to hang my a** out with mistakes.

Lillen
Antilles
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Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 11:48 PM UTC
Hello modelers,

how about a Me 163 B-1a. This egg is from 1944, but I have decals of a 6./JG 400 of May 1945 (so the writing says in the Revell instruction). Would this be okay?

Oliver
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 - 12:20 AM UTC

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Hello modelers,

how about a Me 163 B-1a. This egg is from 1944, but I have decals of a 6./JG 400 of May 1945 (so the writing says in the Revell instruction). Would this be okay?

Oliver


Oliver,

As long as it's marked as in 1945, you're good to go.

Michael
PeeJay74
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 - 01:48 AM UTC
Would I be able to put my P-38M into this? I enlisted her for the Fork Tailed Devils campaign but haven't gotten any further than washing the parts. There is no way I am going to get her finished for that campaign, or even make any progress for that matter. I might as well just shelve her until this starts if that is acceptable?
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 - 03:30 AM UTC

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Would I be able to put my P-38M into this? I enlisted her for the Fork Tailed Devils campaign but haven't gotten any further than washing the parts. There is no way I am going to get her finished for that campaign, or even make any progress for that matter. I might as well just shelve her until this starts if that is acceptable?


Paul,

Fine with me as long as it's from 1945!

Michael
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 07:24 AM UTC

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Hi guys.

The investigation goes on. It seems like Revell have made a booboo on their 109-K4, so the first aid hatch is placed according to a G-fuselage. Now, for the tail, I've found no visible differences on the profiles and 109-websites I've found, but if somebody has info, I'd be glad. If I'm to build a specific plane, I do't want to hang my a** out with mistakes.

Lillen


Hi Tony,
In years of study, I've never heard of or seen anything indicating different tall wooden tails.

Best Wishes,
Gary
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 07:05 PM UTC
How do you all feel about this as a ribbon? Simple and to the point:

photo 1945 ribbon large_zpsu1evobst.gif

photo 1945 ribbon small_zpsjaohrkha.gif

Michael
Antilles
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 08:12 PM UTC

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Oliver,

As long as it's marked as in 1945, you're good to go.

Michael


Michael, the instruction says the "white 54" should be of 1945, but if there is any doubt, I will put an US inspection team aside . So I will be in with a Me 163, called "white 54". As the reference is uncertain about the color scheme, does anybody have a proper profile for the "white 54".

Like Your ribbon very much. As You said, simple and on the spot.

Oliver
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 08:14 PM UTC

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Michael, the instruction says the white 54 should be of 1945, but if there is any doubt, I will put an US inspection team aside . So I will be in with a Me 163.

Oliver


That should do it!

Michael
Antilles
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 08:22 PM UTC

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Checked my 109 G-10 this weekend and found it to actually be a K-4. So far I've found the differences to concern the wing bulges, for which smaller ones are supplied, so that's taken care of, and the hatch for the first aid kit, which can be rescribed (a thing I've never done before) but everything else seems to be very similar. Does anybody here know of anything else on the skin to be different? I'm going for a fully enclosed plane, so engine differences will not be visible.

Lillen


Hello Lillen,

I am no Expert, but my reference says, the G-10 had a Master compass hatch, deleted on the K-4. Additionally, the Fuel filler was moved forward from G-10 to K-4 and the DF-loop shifted rearward. But, no information about the bulges or the tail. Certainly new were wheel well covers on some k-4 for the outside.

That is all I found. But, as everything was used in the late years of the war, I would check a reference photo of the plane You want to build.

Oliver
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 10:25 AM UTC
The ribbon works for me Michael.

Gary
LongKnife
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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 06:15 PM UTC
Thanks for the info Oliver.

I've found three b&w pictures om a swedish website, so I'll check them against your info.

Lillen
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Posted: Monday, September 28, 2015 - 09:27 AM UTC
I have Hasegawa's 1/32 Focke-Wulf Fw190D-9 'JG4' which was given to me from a friend. The markings include Stab/JG4, Germany, March 1945 and JG301, Germany, May 1945.
c4willy
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2015 - 04:03 AM UTC
Okay guy's and gals I'm in with Hobbycrafts Me109K-4! I've got the Cooper detail set for the cockpit with replacement tail wheel, gear door covers, exhausts and etch seat belts. Should look rather good when finished and coincidentally this will be the first time you lot have seen me work with resin.

I usually build out of the box but when I bought this kit it had the cooper detail set inside and it seems a shame not to use it. Although not originally designed for this kit (designed for the Monogram kit re-released by Revell) Ray does suggest that the Hobbycraft kit would benefit from its use in the instructions. So benefit it will! Here's a pic of the kit and resin goodies although not much can be seen whilst in it's bag. If you are interested in exactly what's in the detail set I'll post a detailed set of pics and description.


MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, October 16, 2015 - 05:32 AM UTC
Beauty Chris! And thanks for the bump!

Start date coming up in a couple of weeks everyone. Get set!

Michael
c4willy
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Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2015 - 02:27 AM UTC
Thanks Michael, Actually I think I'll show you what's in the Cooper detail set. It's no longer in production (although I'm not to sure) but it's still available on eBay every now and then and worth while getting if you can. I'll just have to take a few detail pics of the bits and pieces and get them on here.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2015 - 04:02 AM UTC
Well, it's Nov. 1 in Greenwich which is good enough for me. This campaign has now started. To discuss the campaign and post starting and in-progress pics go to the official campaign thread. This current thread will now be locked.

Looking forward to it!

Michael
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